[savannah-help-public] [sr #109371] bug tracker date format excessive

[Steve White]

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Summary: bug tracker date format excessive
Project: Savannah Administration
Submitted by: Stevan_White
Submitted on: Mon 21 Aug 2017 01:11:17 PM CEST
Category: Savannah trackers - bugs, tasks, etc.
Priority: 5 - Normal
Severity: 3 - Normal
Status: None
Assigned to: None
Originator Email: ***@gmail.com
Operating System: None
Open/Closed: Open
Discussion Lock: Any

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Details:

Longstanding annoyance:

The 'Submittted on' date column of the bug tracker is formatted in full as
e.g.
Mon 21 Aug 2017 12:56:39 PM CEST

The problem is, on small screens, this wide column causes wrapping of the bug
items, for no good reason: the seconds, and the day of the week as well, are
immaterial to me, and I think to other users too.

Really I would be quite happy with the date alone, in abbreviated format
mm/dd/yy or dd.mm.yy. As a header for the column, "submitted" would suffice.

Maybe you could make it a preference, which format to use.

Thanks!




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[Benno Schulenberg]

Follow-up Comment #1, sr #109371 (project administration):

Yes, I second this. The two-line column is ugly, and contains far too much
information. (But don't abbreviate the year, so as to keep it obvious which
of the numbers is the year, for people whose locale uses a different
ordering.)

Maybe the "Submitted On" column could contain only the time for items that
were submitted within the last twelve hours or so, and only the date for older
items? But if that is too much of a complication, just the date is fine. But
when showing the time, please make it possible to choose the 24-hour system,
because seeing something like "06:47:14 PM CEST" is frustrating -- «No, it's
not 06:47 PM, it's 18:47!»

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[Ineiev]

Update of sr #109371 (project administration):

Status: None => In Progress
Assigned to: None => ineiev

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Follow-up Comment #2:

I've just pushed a change: for events less than 12 hours ago, it uses %X
strftime format (localized time), else %x (localized date). WRT 06:47 PM vs.
18:47, it's set depending on the language
<https://savannah.gnu.org/i18n.php?lang_uri=%2Fsupport%2F%3F109371>.

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[Benno Schulenberg]

Follow-up Comment #3, sr #109371 (project administration):

Oof... That's not really better: now it lists dates in the idiotic American
format: 05/24/2018. But in the bugs itself it still shows the day first:
"Submitted on: Thu 24 May 2018 04:40:04 PM CEST". It would be much better if
in the lists it defaulted to a sane format (24-05-2018 or 2018-05-24,
preferrably the first).

Depending on the language is not good enough, because only English and Russian
are currently available. :\ I think also a "default" language should be made
available, which is mostly English but with an international date format.

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[Ineiev]

Follow-up Comment #4, sr #109371 (project administration):

What about having a separate selection box for LC_TIME on /i18n.php?

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[Benno Schulenberg]

Follow-up Comment #5, sr #109371 (project administration):

Yes, being able to explicitly select the data-and-time format would be pretty
good.

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[Ineiev]

Follow-up Comment #6, sr #109371 (project administration):

What should be the default time locale?

On the server, these are currently available:

$ locale -a|while read i;do echo $i:;LC_ALL=$i date +%X;LC_ALL=$i date
+%x;LC_ALL=$i date +%c;done
C:
07:32:20
05/25/18
Fri May 25 07:32:20 2018
C.UTF-8:
07:32:20
05/25/2018
Fri 25 May 2018 07:32:20 AM EDT
POSIX:
07:32:20
05/25/18
Fri May 25 07:32:20 2018
ca_AD.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
dv 25 mai 2018 07:32:20 EDT
ca_ES.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
dv 25 mai 2018 07:32:20 EDT
***@valencia:
07:32:20
25/05/18
dv 25 mai 2018 07:32:20 EDT
ca_FR.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
dv 25 mai 2018 07:32:20 EDT
ca_IT.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
dv 25 mai 2018 07:32:20 EDT
de_AT.utf8:
07:32:20
2018-05-25
Fre 25 Mai 2018 07:32:20 EDT
de_BE.utf8:
07:32:20
2018-05-25
Fre 25 Mai 2018 07:32:20 EDT
de_CH.utf8:
07:32:20
25.05.2018
Fre 25 Mai 2018 07:32:20 EDT
de_DE.utf8:
07:32:20
25.05.2018
Fr 25 Mai 2018 07:32:20 EDT
de_LI.utf8:
07:32:20
25.05.2018
Fre 25 Mai 2018 07:32:20 EDT
de_LU.utf8:
07:32:20
2018-05-25
Fre 25 Mai 2018 07:32:20 EDT
en_AG:
07:32:20
25/05/18
Fri 25 May 2018 07:32:20 EDT
en_AG.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
Fri 25 May 2018 07:32:20 EDT
en_AU.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
Fri 25 May 2018 07:32:20 EDT
en_BW.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/2018
Fri 25 May 2018 07:32:20 EDT
en_CA.utf8:
07:32:20 AM
18-05-25
Fri 25 May 2018 07:32:20 AM EDT
en_DK.utf8:
07:32:20
2018-05-25
2018-05-25T07:32:20 EDT
en_GB.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
Fri 25 May 2018 07:32:20 EDT
en_HK.utf8:
07:32:20 EDT
Friday, May 25, 2018
Friday, May 25, 2018 AM07:32:20 EDT
en_IE.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
Fri 25 May 2018 07:32:20 EDT
en_IN:
07:32:20 EDT
Friday 25 May 2018
Friday 25 May 2018 07:32:20 AM EDT
en_IN.utf8:
07:32:20 EDT
Friday 25 May 2018
Friday 25 May 2018 07:32:20 AM EDT
en_NG:
07:32:20
25/05/2018
Fri 25 May 2018 07:32:20 EDT
en_NG.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/2018
Fri 25 May 2018 07:32:20 EDT
en_NZ.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
Fri 25 May 2018 07:32:20 EDT
en_PH.utf8:
07:32:20 EDT
Friday, 25 May, 2018
Friday, 25 May, 2018 07:32:20 AM EDT
en_SG.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/2018
Fri 25 May 2018 07:32:20 AM
en_US.utf8:
07:32:20 AM
05/25/2018
Fri 25 May 2018 07:32:20 AM EDT
en_ZA.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/2018
Fri 25 May 2018 07:32:20 EDT
en_ZM:
07:32:20
25/05/18
Fri 25 May 2018 07:32:20 EDT
en_ZM.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
Fri 25 May 2018 07:32:20 EDT
en_ZW.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/2018
Fri 25 May 2018 07:32:20 EDT
es_AR.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:20 EDT
es_BO.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:20 EDT
es_CL.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:20 EDT
es_CO.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:20 EDT
es_CR.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/2018
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:20 EDT
es_CU:
07:32:20
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:20 EDT
es_CU.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:20 EDT
es_DO.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:20 EDT
es_EC.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:20 EDT
es_ES.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:20 EDT
es_GT.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:20 EDT
es_HN.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:20 EDT
es_MX.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:20 EDT
es_NI.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:20 EDT
es_PA.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:20 EDT
es_PE.utf8:
07:32:20
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:20 EDT
es_PR.utf8:
07:32:21
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:21 EDT
es_PY.utf8:
07:32:21
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:21 EDT
es_SV.utf8:
07:32:21
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:21 EDT
es_US.utf8:
07:32:21
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:21 EDT
es_UY.utf8:
07:32:21
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:21 EDT
es_VE.utf8:
07:32:21
25/05/18
vie 25 may 2018 07:32:21 EDT
fr_BE.utf8:
07:32:21
25/05/18
ven 25 mai 2018 07:32:21 EDT
fr_CA.utf8:
07:32:21
2018-05-25
ven 25 mai 2018 07:32:21 EDT
fr_CH.utf8:
07:32:21
25. 05. 18
ven 25 mai 2018 07:32:21 EDT
fr_FR.utf8:
07:32:21
25/05/2018
ven. 25 mai 2018 07:32:21 EDT
fr_LU.utf8:
07:32:21
25.05.2018
ven 25 mai 2018 07:32:21 EDT
it_CH.utf8:
07:32:21
25. 05. 18
ven 25 mag 2018 07:32:21 EDT
it_IT.utf8:
07:32:21
25/05/2018
ven 25 mag 2018 07:32:21 EDT
ja_JP.utf8:
07時32分21秒
2018年05月25日
2018年05月25日 07時32分21秒
ko_KR.utf8:
07시 32분 21초
2018년 05월 25일
2018년 05월 25일 (금) 오전 07시 32분 21초
pt_BR.utf8:
07:32:21
25-05-2018
Sex 25 Mai 2018 07:32:21 EDT
pt_PT.utf8:
07:32:21
25-05-2018
Sex 25 Mai 2018 07:32:21 EDT
ru_RU.utf8:
07:32:21
25.05.2018
Пт. 25 мая 2018 07:32:21
ru_UA.utf8:
07:32:21
25.05.2018
Птн 25 Май 2018 07:32:21
sv_FI.utf8:
07.32.21
25.05.2018
fre 25. maj 2018 07.32.21
sv_SE.utf8:
07:32:21
2018-05-25
fre 25 maj 2018 07:32:21


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[Benno Schulenberg]

Follow-up Comment #7, sr #109371 (project administration):

None of those. An "international" locale ought to be available, or customly
made, that implements ISO 8601.

https://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/iso-date
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601

Default date format: YYYY-MM-DD
Default time format: hh:mm (24-hour)


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[Steve White]

Follow-up Comment #8, sr #109371 (project administration):

That's much better already! Thanks for your work on this!

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[Ineiev]

Update of sr #109371 (project administration):

Status: In Progress => Works For Me

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Follow-up Comment #9:

It turns out that the additional setting for time format adds complexity that
doesn't justify itself, for maintainers and for users. I've just make ISO 8601
format unconditional.

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[Benno Schulenberg]

Follow-up Comment #10, sr #109371 (project administration):

Thanks. Looks great to me.

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[Ineiev]

Update of sr #109371 (project administration):

Status: Works For Me => Done
Open/Closed: Open => Closed


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